We Americans are not going to stand by and watch America continue to be over-run by people from south of the border. If you want to try and take over this country come here legally and then we'll talk, but until then fed-up white Americans are not going to put up with your BS. Get out while you still can.

Wow,

Not only does your comment reek of racism but you sign off as "beaner burner". Good thing the vast majority of U.S. citizens don't agree with your viewpoint, or your racism, and recognize the need for humane immigration reform.

"bean burner,"

Threats of violence will not make voices of reason go away. We need real immigration reform in this country, not voices of fear and intolerance like Lou Dobbs.

He fans the flames of nativism, even if he himself is perfectly civil and un-racist. He does it to win ratings at a time when hate crimes against latinos are on the rise.

He does it at the expense of truth, saying things like 'immigrants are causing leprosy,' without impunity.

No more!

Thanks for a good post. Both points are correct. Most undoc. folks have committed a misdemeanor by being here, and are very careful to avoid other infractions. I'm more worried about the decrease in safety from having neighbors who spend all their time indoors & don't interact w/ the neighborhood, than I am about criminal activity. And: Even legal migrants are ineligible for public benefits for the first 5 years of residency, except K-12 education and workers' comp. I know, I just did affidavits of support for a couple of family members -- the liability issues are pretty huge.

I also find the "beaner burner" handle threatening. Having opinions is one thing. Threatening physical harm to people of a particular ethnic group is quite another.

Wow. Speaking as a fellow fed up white american --- i take offense at your comment. Do not propose to speak for me or any sort of majority in this country. I'm fed up with the lack of action of our congress to pass real, workable, humane immigration reform. I'm fed up with the fear and terror that are injected into MY community by our federal government. What was once a vibrant community with people out on porches, children playing, small businesses and restaurants -- has become a ghost town. I'm fed up with the rights of immigrants and MY VERY OWN RIGHTS being attacked by people like you who are so rabid and eager for an easy target.

I'd write your name here, but it's too offensive,

I'm an American and I don't share your resentment or anger. I believe the best thing we can do is help others rather than vilify and dehumanize them. It's so nice of you to offer to 'talk' to those that come here legally. Your assertion is that they still may not be good enough for you, but you'll at least give them a 'chance.' How noble of you.

Maybe instead of asking that people leave and trying to provoke arguments you should petition your government to be more responsible and compassionate around the world.

The comments made by the ESL teacher could have been made by me except for the fact that I taught in California. I also lived in immigrant neighborhoods. The hate perpetrated by these groups is real, pervasive and frightening. Last week, when a young boy in Carson California died in a car crash described by the headline as "hellacious", many of the comments submitted to the paper about his death were hateful. He was an animal, one person said, because undocumented people are not human beings. Others expressed similar ideas because of his perceived immigration status. I say perceived because the boy and his family were US citizens. Dobbs, Beck, O'Reilly and others, through their overheated rhetoric in their quest for ratings, not to report news, have created a climate where the expression hate is becoming acceptable. Once humans are demonized and dehumanized, the next step is physical harm. According to hate crime statistics against latinos, we are already there.

Thanks to those of you are using this space for real dialogue!

lou is married to a Mexican American, Debi, wonder what she thinks of how he talks,.............

My opinon; The CAUSE of the current economic issues facing this nation;
1. started during the Clinton administration. Bill had a great idea about allowing everyone to have a "chance" to own a home.
2.Greed took control of our electiced officals thru lobbyist money allowing the exploitation of people and money by allowing loans with no controls. 9-11 happened chipping away at our democracy; then the current war with the Muslim world. The hidden dagger is being pushed in and twisted, we do not even know it is there.
3.Muslim oil producing contries that hate the USA and what we stand for freedom of having choices and a chance to improve our lives in a contry of free people women and menor variuos religions and backgrounds. We pride ourselves in helping others, maybe not as much as they like but we try.
4. The current economic crisis started with the relaxed rules, but "fueled" by the unjustisfied price increase of a barrel of oil. Then when our government made attempts to correct the problem in the finanical markets the oil producers drop the price of oil causing the econoimc woes to start all over again - NO STABILITY, Wall Street is being held up by a thin thread of hope from the US govenment.
5.Shame on all of AMERICANS for allowing this to happen, I see no protests no comments from the liberal media no one with a set of gonads to stand up for what is right. AIG officals just slapped every American and we turned the other cheek and offered them more money, when they should have been removed from their jobs and dealt with in a fairly, not given more money to go out and party with. People are hurting, retired and working, govenment officals having NO KNOWLEDGE of what it costs when going to a grocery store, or day to day expenses of the "average American" making an average wage
6.Politicans only telling us what we want to hear thru rose colored glasses. There will some very tough decisions made with who ever is the next president. We need to stop the economic loss and stop the importing of oil. The alternative fuels as in PICKENS PLAN must start ASAP
7.Vote.. Vote..Vote..every immcubent out of office. We have too many lawyers and not enough businessmen or everyday middleclass citizens making decisions about this country. We need common sense decision making in a big hurry so VOTE !!!